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Posted by: KennyK
On: 07-31-2012 03:28 AM
Nice thread, thanks for staring & the great replies here. Will definitely use the advice in here, as I want to work on that problem area of mine as well.
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http://forum.smarthealthshop.com/showthread.php?t=1077#post98453
Posted by: Cthulhu
On: 07-31-2012 05:29 AM
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Nice thread, thanks for staring & the great replies here. Will definitely use the advice in here, as I want to work on that problem area of mine as well.
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So what is your problem? Weak/small ab muscles or high bodyfat that prevents you from seeing the abs? Let us know which and we can assist you........
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http://forum.smarthealthshop.com/showthread.php?t=1077#post98487
Posted by: derek
On: 07-31-2012 10:35 PM
---Quote (Originally by KennyK)---
Nice thread, thanks for staring & the great replies here. Will definitely use the advice in here, as I want to work on that problem area of mine as well.
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Any word on this one Kenny? Can we help you build abs or can we help you shed fat? Or maybe we can help with both? Hoping to hear from you soon on this one...
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http://forum.smarthealthshop.com/showthread.php?t=1077#post98497
Posted by: SoulJam
On: 08-01-2012 12:03 AM
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Well, I've been slim all of my life so I have never really had to worry about working out my abs. I am 5'10 165lbs with a decent small built. I don't have a 6-pack, though, and ab workouts REALLY hurt me. I just assume it's because I never had to work them growing up. Are some people just built this way or what? I ask because I've always been involved in sports and other full body activities... but unlike the other skinny guys, I don't have a 6 pack. What gives?
Any suggestions besides situps? I have been in the Army for 8 years. I do situps like crazy every week. No change. :confused:
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You might actually have HUGE abs and not know it because you can't see them. You need to get your body fat percentage down to the single digits before your abs pop through. 6-5-4-3-% body fat and they will show through. Some people can get away with a higher amount of body fat and still have them show, others need to really work hard at it.
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Posted by: derek
On: 08-01-2012 12:19 AM
---Quote (Originally by SoulJam)---
You might actually have HUGE abs and not know it because you can't see them. You need to get your body fat percentage down to the single digits before your abs pop through. 6-5-4-3-% body fat and they will show through. Some people can get away with a higher amount of body fat and still have them show, others need to really work hard at it.
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At 5'10" 165 pounds and no abs, they are doubtfully huge abs...it probably more of a midsection development issue since that weight and height is unlikely to have a high body fat percentage.
You can start to see abs around the 10 percent bodyfat range for average genetically inclined individuals. 6 to 3 percent is a highly unlikely goal for 98 percent of people in a lifetime...3 percent will never happen. Never. And those who can see abs at a higher body fat percentage are simply genetically blessed in the manner of having body fat more evenly distributed as opposed to more being stored subcutaneously in the midsection like the rest of us with average joe genetics.
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http://forum.smarthealthshop.com/showthread.php?t=1077#post98500
Posted by: derek
On: 08-01-2012 12:21 AM
---Quote (Originally by SoulJam)---
You might actually have HUGE abs and not know it because you can't see them. You need to get your body fat percentage down to the single digits before your abs pop through. 6-5-4-3-% body fat and they will show through. Some people can get away with a higher amount of body fat and still have them show, others need to really work hard at it.
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This is someone at 5.5% bodyfat:
Http://www.leangains.com
In all respect, I can guarantee that you have never (professional bodybuilders included) seen anyone in real life or in entertainment with a lower bodyfat percentage than Martin Berkhan...especially someone who maintains it for more than a photoshoot...I would say his abs popped out far before hitting the 5 percent range for body fat...
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http://forum.smarthealthshop.com/showthread.php?t=1077#post98512
Posted by: Cthulhu
On: 08-01-2012 01:37 AM
---Quote (Originally by derek)---
At 5'10" 165 pounds and no abs, they are doubtfully huge abs...it probably more of a midsection development issue since that weight and height is unlikely to have a high body fat percentage.
You can start to see abs around the 10 percent bodyfat range for average genetically inclined individuals. 6 to 3 percent is a highly unlikely goal for 98 percent of people in a lifetime...3 percent will never happen. Never. And those who can see abs at a higher body fat percentage are simply genetically blessed in the manner of having body fat more evenly distributed as opposed to more being stored subcutaneously in the midsection like the rest of us with average joe genetics.
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Eh, more than that. A lot of people can see abs at 15%. People always underestimate their body fat levels. When someone says they're 6% they're usually 10%+. Of course most people have to get into the single digits to see ALL your abs and for them to look shredded.
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http://forum.smarthealthshop.com/showthread.php?t=1077#post98514
Posted by: SoulJam
On: 08-01-2012 01:40 AM
---Quote (Originally by derek)---
This is someone at 5.5% bodyfat:
Http://www.leangains.com
In all respect, I can guarantee that you have never (professional bodybuilders included) seen anyone in real life or in entertainment with a lower bodyfat percentage than Martin Berkhan...especially someone who maintains it for more than a photoshoot...I would say his abs popped out far before hitting the 5 percent range for body fat...
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Point taken. I've never been below 10% body fat. My brother has been below 10% but he still dipped lower to improve his abs definition because they wern't fully out. He walked around like a zombie for while with no energy at all in him. His face was pretty gaunt and he fell asleep about 10 times a day. Like I said, it's hard work, but it's possible.
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http://forum.smarthealthshop.com/showthread.php?t=1077#post98527
Posted by: Cthulhu
On: 08-01-2012 04:34 AM
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This is someone at 5.5% bodyfat:
Http://www.leangains.com
In all respect, I can guarantee that you have never (professional bodybuilders included) seen anyone in real life or in entertainment with a lower bodyfat percentage than Martin Berkhan...especially someone who maintains it for more than a photoshoot...I would say his abs popped out far before hitting the 5 percent range for body fat...
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Actually, Julius Peppers was measured at between 3-4% coming out of college.........amazing for someone his size..........
I bet you T.O. is pretty damn low too..........
Image: http://www.sixpacknow.com/images5/Terrell_owens_physique.jpg
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Posted by: derek
On: 08-01-2012 09:20 AM
---Quote (Originally by SoulJam)---
Point taken. I've never been below 10% body fat. My brother has been below 10% but he still dipped lower to improve his abs definition because they wern't fully out. He walked around like a zombie for while with no energy at all in him. His face was pretty gaunt and he fell asleep about 10 times a day. Like I said, it's hard work, but it's possible.
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Oh yes, with the diet as low in carbs as it is to achieve that low of a body fat percentage, it certainly does make you lethargic and light headed at times...a fairly miserable yet rewarding experience for the majority of us not naturally inclined to have a more even spread of body fat and therefore abs that will easily show at multiple bodyfat percentages. Congrats to your brother by the way...that is hard work!
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Actually, Julius Peppers was measured at between 3-4% coming out of college.........amazing for someone his size..........
I bet you T.O. is pretty damn low too..........
Image: http://www.sixpacknow.com/images5/Terrell_owens_physique.jpg
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I don't buy that T.O. is lower than Berkhan though...maybe 6 percent, but look at that:
http://www.davepetersonfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/MartinAbs-300x225.jpg
And Peppers was seriously measured between 3 and 4 percent bodyfat out of college? Are you kidding me? Seriously? Are you kidding? Do you believe that or have any pictures of him at that percentage? Have you ever seen someone remotely close to 3 percent body fat? I find it very difficult to fathom...
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http://forum.smarthealthshop.com/showthread.php?t=1077#post98553
Posted by: Cthulhu
On: 08-01-2012 01:51 PM
---Quote (Originally by derek)---
Oh yes, with the diet as low in carbs as it is to achieve that low of a body fat percentage, it certainly does make you lethargic and light headed at times...a fairly miserable yet rewarding experience for the majority of us not naturally inclined to have a more even spread of body fat and therefore abs that will easily show at multiple bodyfat percentages. Congrats to your brother by the way...that is hard work!
I don't buy that T.O. is lower than Berkhan though...maybe 6 percent, but look at that:
http://www.davepetersonfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/MartinAbs-300x225.jpg
And Peppers was seriously measured between 3 and 4 percent bodyfat out of college? Are you kidding me? Seriously? Are you kidding? Do you believe that or have any pictures of him at that percentage? Have you ever seen someone remotely close to 3 percent body fat? I find it very difficult to fathom...
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I read the stats for Peppers in Sports Illustrated - they were from the NFL Combine so I'm sure they were accurate.
T.O. is probably right around the level of Berkhan - even more impressive for him since he's a lot heavier. Apparently his trainer claims he is between 3-4%.
Brady Quinn was officially measured at 5% also........crazy impressive for a QB. Can't find any recent photos of him showing off how lean he is, but you can see from his arms here he is pretty damn lean:
Image: http://bestcelebrityworkouts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Muscle_-_Fitnessbradyquinncover.jpg
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